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dysfl 156 ( +1 | -1 )
Your thoughts about Modern Defense (g6, Bg7) I'm playing this defense system for some while as black. If there are any other players using this system, please share your thoughts and experiences.

The sequence I use for black is 1. g6 2. Bg7 3. d6 or Nf6 4. Nf6 or d6 5. 0-0.

In my level of strength (1400-1500 in GK), I find it playable so far. At more advanced level, this opening might be not that good at all.

Against strong players, I either got choked to death or try to exchange everything and draw but blunders in the endgame. Against weaker players, it often make a quick surprise combo from the fianchettoed Bishop at g7. For equal strength level, It makes constant positional struggles till one side make a mistake. It is White who will decide to make it an open game or a closed one.

Quite often, it becomes a mind game. The opponents tends to looks down the low profile of Black's set-up and makes mindless attacks just because it is possible. The initial positional advantage gives the White some confidence and it could make a blind spot on its own security.

pro : It is a system to play against almost anything (e4, d4, Nf3.... even a4). It is quite similar to Pirc and often becomes one. But it is not a widely used opening so some advantage in there. If the opponents got too aggressive earlier than needed, you can easily make it neutral or open up the centre by exchanges and control the flow of middlegame.

con : Drawish. Not for an 1200-1300 player. There are several deadly opening traps White can play or you blunder yourself. Also, defending the King against h-pawn advance or big pawn centre is tricky.
amad_perets 44 ( +1 | -1 )
I've also been playing this for some time....and I evaluate it about like you do. I began using it because of it's adaptability early in the game, you can play it against anything white does...but dislike the fact that white is seemingly always on the initiative, unless sometimes an aggressive f5 presents itself. Also, it seems to me that it's too passive now that it's being used and studied more....however, I'm still playing it...:)
chrisp 118 ( +1 | -1 )
Perfectly playable I occasionally play the Modern defence, and believe it to be perfectly playable as black. The basic principle is that white is allowed to establish a pawn centre, and black attempts to undermine it. The central confrontation is usually delayed, and black must be careful early on - inaccuracies can lead to black being overrun before obtaining any counterplay.

The usual methods of counterplay stem from either e5 or c5 pressurising the central dark squares. White is soemtimes known to push too far too quickly, and this can lead to a totally shattered position which black can take advantage of.

I don't know of any line for white against which black cannot create some counterplay and have reasonable chances of a good game.

The main point when playing it is to ensure that every move is accurate - as I said earlier any inaccuracies can lead to trouble against good white players of this system.

Overall I think it's a very playable system for black, although I would advise doing some good homework on the major lines - especially when playing high ranked opponents.

Good luck
dysfl 55 ( +1 | -1 )
An example mini-game Here is one of my game showing the trickery of Modern Defense.

My opponent was rated 1431, and brought out White's Queen early to press f7 in move 4. Often, it would lead to an early Queen exchange. If black misses the threat, Qxf7# will make a 5-move game. Move 6, Bg4 is a counter to drive out Queen from f-file. White was pre-occupied to attack on f-file and overlooked the back-rank attack. This is just another example that Modern has many traps for both sides.

1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Bc4 d6 4. Qf3 Nf6 5. e5 dxe5
6. dxe5 Bg4 7. Qf4 Qd1# 0-1
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tripleb2000 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Good Good opening, comparable to the Hedgehog defense for back.
basti1981 46 ( +1 | -1 )
I used to play both the KID and the Pirc Defense Since I used to play Kings Indian and the Pirc defense, so I can give you my impression (because I think the Pirc and the Modern Defense are quite similar)

My impression is, that the Pirc defense is a bit inferrior to the KID, I can only guess why, I think it's because White hasn't "wasted" a tempo on the pawn push c2-c4, and so white really has the initiative and unlike to the KID in the Pirc defense the Lines with f4 from white can be really unpleasent for Black (at least my impression).